Sunday 4 April 2021

Contrepoint (1971)-- limited time only





It seems a Parisian record store put out a series of so far 17 mostly psychedelic unheard and unheard-of albums with the name Monster Melodies Records.  There are some well-known prog titles in there like Ame Son which came in as the first release, Fille qui Mousse, the brilliant Belgians Moving Gelatine Plates (a point of reference to which all prog should be compared to), vibraphonist Robert Wood (who appeared on this blog in the past), Dies Irae, a Vangelis work, the LP of Xalph which I believe I put on this blog too (that one was unbelievably good), Areski plus Brigitte Fontaine (hated those albums)-- in fact most of these artists are well known to us already.  This leaves a handful of interesting other releases including Eclosium, Calcium, and the remarkable PLVG which is by far the standout among these unknowns, I recommend you seek those out.  Satan is also highly worth hearing, being in the Ange-like Symphonic Prog style, and there's so little left to discover in that bin.

I guess that covers just about all their releases, I think.  This one I hadn't heard and was curious about, being styled as fusion / free jazz.

The (brief) band description:

French jazz band founded by Jean-Pierre Carolfi and Jean-Pierre Weiller in 1970. They never managed to record an album, their main recording legacy being some live tapes they did while on tour with Hugh Hopper and released on his 'Monster Band' album.

I should've read the reviews below the info however, since they do cover it quite honestly:

paradiso July 27, 2017

I agree. Not nearly as interesting as it was billed, and a horrendous recording and dismal pressing. Plus, Track 5 doesn't seem to be on the album.

swil_wilson July 26, 2017

Fairly unexceptional improv blend of jazz and rock. The recording quality is horrendous! To my ears, it's unlistenable. This wasn't released for a reason: it's a poor recording of music that isn't very compelling. I like avant-garde jazz, and I'm also a fan of experimental rock, but man, the music isn't good enough to justify the poor recording quality. If someone can explain what they like about this album, please leave me a response. I'm genuinely curious.

On the other hand the first one seems way off base to me:

Sounding somewhere between Soft Machine and Art Ensemble Of Chicago, this LP contains previously unreleased recordings of this French jazz band founded by Jean-Pierre Carolfi and Jean-Pierre Weiller in 1970. Never managing to release an album (til' now that is), their main recording legacy consists of live tapes that were taped while on tour with Hugh Hopper. Carolfi and Weiller also played on Hopper's 'Monster Band' album. Limited to 1.000 copies on clear vinyl.

The most annoying thing to me other than the bad live recording which I've always detested and the simple chord changes, with often just one chord plus a lot of psych or sax noodling sounding in principle like Soft Machine but without its ingenuity, is the fact the track lengths and songs as listed are completely wrong, totally. There is no way to attach a song name with any given track length, and as the reviewer stated, it seems like track A5 was completely left off the pressing!!! 

Despite this, looking at the verso it does state tracks and lengths exactly what was written up here on the database page--all of which is completely wrong.  Can you believe it?

Possibly, one of the tracks called Unfathomable of the Seventh Time (great title though) is this:






15 comments:

  1. I agree with you an the sound, pretty dreadful. I've grown less and less tolerant of that sort of thing over the years. I love the music on side two of Hugh Hopper's Monster Band album, but never listen due to the lousy recording. This does sound like it's from the same source. There are elements of this muisc I do like. Pity they never made a studio album.

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  2. Greetings Captain!
    After finally freeing the ship from a grim cold dark ice floe,
    we are more than ready for some new sounds!
    Well I have to agree with your assessment of this muddy mess!
    ..with an unrestrained blaring-blurting-wailing saxophone player who needed a mute in his horn and some pro tips from the Jasmine ace sax-man... "But you had to be there!!!.....it was brilliant!!!" :)
    If it isn't Tangerine Dream's live masterpiece 'Encore', The Phish from Vermont (Phish, whom I followed on many a Tour and saw over 40 times! truly a better band live than in the studio!...just listen to the roughly hour-long segment from their New Year's Eve 2000 'Big Cypress' show when they were in the middle of the Florida Everglades and epically played from midnight until dawn without leaving the stage (almost 8 hrs! I saw it all!):...this happened at about 3 AM, for context :) 'Sand>Quadrophonic Toppling-Slave To The Traffic Light-Albuquerque...Trey owned this Neil Young tune on that night-I was there!!!)
    (above mentioned 4-song clip from the immortal Big Cypress night)
    ......... www63.zippyshare.com/v/N7ldfi42/file.html ..........................
    The Song Remains The Same, Marley's Babylon By Bus, or Quicksilver's Happy Trails, I usually am wary & skeptical hahaha ;)
    Thank You for sharing, always curious.....some of the other titles on this label look very interesting....I've not heard Eclosion, Calcium, PLVG, or Satan....and had totally forgotten about Moving Gelatin Plates....now some more musical digging & searching to do, ....work that I love :)
    Finally got in the right headspace to give that Morning Sky - Sea Of Dreams a listen :) !!! vastly superior sound quality! what a great Lp, that little enchantress lead vocal & flute (she gives Ian A. some solid challenge! her yelps are straight up enticing...she must be the same Barbara on many great Lps from those elusive super-talented US unknown-Elves that survived the maelstrom at the end of the 60s, to roam the musical landscape throughout the 70s-80s-90s, gifting the world with continuous 'one-off' Lps and sounds & tracks of a magnitude unparalleled....aye once were many good vibrations appearing here and there and everywhere, now sadly all memories..... ) Thank You so much bro!!!
    Recently learned that the great Harold Budd had passed last Dec....
    ...he had always been among my favorites from the old Hearts Of Space days thru his many classic Lps and any Lp he guested on was raised in creativity and consciousness...spiritual presence ...
    I noticed his 1991 classic 'By The Dawn's Early Light' was missing online and it also happens to be my personal favorite, from Budd's haunting poetry to Bill Nelson's additionally powerful presence & guitar work, tied together strongly by BJ Cole's masterful pedal steel guitar, Mabel Wong's sweet striking viola, and Susan Allen's beautiful harp, this is a ghost-town masterpiece Lp recorded in New Orleans from March 15 till April 4, 1991... ...the last sunrays in end-of-the-day beauty & sadness...
    Budd had a photo in the cd jacket last page....a terribly haunting old polaroid, "The Captive White Boy, Santiago McKinn" - Anonymous, 1886
    As Budd said himself in the liner notes, "I had casually come across the photo of Santiago McKinn perhaps twice in the past decade or so. The last time I saw it, in a news article when it was sold, I knew it wouldn't go away again."
    Also a nod to Uncle Bill, as is also noted in the credits, 'The Place Of Dead Roads' refers to the novel by William S. Burroughs
    Enjoy my friends
    www81.zippyshare.com/v/k9auQ5Mo/file.html

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  3. this is great. thanks for sharing

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  4. you can get these two (Eclosion + Calcium) on ezhevika fields and PLVG on youtube

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    1. plvg and satan are the best 2 in my opinion

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    2. Hi Julian, any chance of sharing PLVG and the Satan LPs?

      Best,

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  5. Sure,no doubt.
    About archival julian, do you have any of these
    https://www.discogs.com/Saskia-Important-Points/release/10933897
    https://www.discogs.com/Ambra-Ambra/release/14774858
    Thanxs

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  6. This turned out to suit my hippy jazz mood for the time being!

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    1. that's the thing about music, no matter how different/weird/unpopular, or umpleasant to one of us humans it might be, there are always people who will enjoy it somewhere, and when I hear pop music on the radio I'm always reminded my own taste is the really weird one

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  7. Man people can whinge! Personally I like the music, and as to the sound quality, yes it's not great, but when it comes to bands where the only surviving recordings are something like this, I'm happy to take what I can get. I have most certainly heard WAY worse sound quality on live bootlegs of numerous bands from the 60s and 70s (and official releases, like Soft Machine - Middle Earth Masters). Get over it folks. The wrong track times and apparently missing track are harder to forgive though, I agree.

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  8. Too bad I missed this. Would it be possible to reupload it please?

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    1. Allow me (if it's okay with JR):
      https://mega.nz/file/LixxSKhK#Umd4lWpofapHZAUeF8uo1bEHUSYZQjvt81SJTQ3fnfA
      Re-live the Contre-versy!

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    2. Thanks so much...appreciated!

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